Talk:Barbara Bush (born 1981)

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This article was nominated for deletion on November 03, 2006. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

This page was nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion on 2017 February 7. The result of the discussion was retarget.

On 5 July 2016, it was proposed that this article be moved from Barbara Pierce Bush to Barbara Bush (born 1981). The result of the discussion was moved.

On 10 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Barbara Bush (activist). The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Requested move 10 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus against this move. If anyone would like to propose another name, please start a new discussion. (closed by non-admin page mover) echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Bush (born 1981) → Barbara Bush (activist) – Much better disambiguator. We usually don't disambiguate by birth year unless the disambiguator is ambiguous (ie. Robert Brown (botanist). {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 03:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The current title isn't great, but we settled on it previously because there wasn't much else that was suitable. "Activist" doesn't work as a disambiguator, because Barbara Bush senior was also an activist, her article has a whole section devoted to this, detailing her work on family literacy. — Amakuru (talk) 09:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. As Amakuru said above, "activist" is too broad a disambiguator. I'd support if another more suitable disambiguator is submitted. 〜Festucalex • talk • contribs 11:46, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There is not much else that works here, if I saw "activist", I doubt I would recognize it. Also, it's crazy to name your daughter of your mom's full name. --Quiz shows 22:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Barbara Bush (born 1981) → Barbara Bush (activist) since subject's grandmother, Barbara Bush was indeed also an activist, although the grandmother's prime claim to notability was, of course, as First Lady. Would support, however, Barbara Bush (born 1981) → Barbara Bush (daughter of George W. Bush) while acknowledging the likely opposition to such a form. Would also support Barbara Bush (born 1981) → Barbara Bush Coyne which was unsuccessfully nominated three-and-a-half years ago (Talk:Barbara Bush (born 1981)/Archive 1#Requested move 6 August 2019). Such a form would be analogous to the form used for her twin sister's main header — Jenna Bush Hager. Would likewise support a move to her birth name Barbara Bush (born 1981) → Barbara Pierce Bush which was unsuccessfully nominated over five years ago (Talk:Barbara Bush (born 1981)/Archive 1#Requested move 13 December 2017). Such a form would also be analogous to Jenna Bush Hager and was used on the cover of the book — Sisters First — which the two sisters co-wrote. Although her grandmother's full name was also Barbara Pierce Bush, the grandmother was not known for using her full name — Barbara Bush: A Memoir, not Barbara Pierce Bush: A Memoir, — while the granddaughter has used the full name on the book cover. Thus, a hatnote atop the granddaughter's entry pointing to the grandmother would suffice. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I agree that YOB alone is a terrible disambiguator. If there's a better one then I may well support it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:00, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.